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PostSubject: Re: Bleach Forums and the Ban Hammer   Bleach Forums and the Ban Hammer - Page 12 EmptyThu May 26, 2011 2:38 am

Yes.

It's actually UraharaHitsugaya424.

He also believes that "the enemy might cheat & reveal a secret weapon" is a sound basis for the military strategy "lure your enemy into your territory & destroy half of your army with them."
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PostSubject: Re: Bleach Forums and the Ban Hammer   Bleach Forums and the Ban Hammer - Page 12 EmptyThu May 26, 2011 2:43 am

What?

"Oh shit, those guys might have some kind of secret weapon. I better do something incredibly reckless to prevent that from happening."
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PostSubject: Re: Bleach Forums and the Ban Hammer   Bleach Forums and the Ban Hammer - Page 12 EmptyThu May 26, 2011 2:45 am

I guess it's different "if it's the end of the world," or something. Although it wouldn't be the end of the world, because Aizen never said shit about destroying the world.

Also:

"He has to look at the big picture than just the one battle."
"By destroying half of his military & ruling class? Isn't post-war stability an even BIGGER picture?"
"No, the bigger picture is ending the war."
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PostSubject: Re: Bleach Forums and the Ban Hammer   Bleach Forums and the Ban Hammer - Page 12 EmptyThu May 26, 2011 2:47 am

End the war first. Worry about the impending instability later.
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PostSubject: Re: Bleach Forums and the Ban Hammer   Bleach Forums and the Ban Hammer - Page 12 EmptyThu May 26, 2011 3:01 am

"When Sun Tzu says you're wrong about warfare, it's time to back down."
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PostSubject: Re: Bleach Forums and the Ban Hammer   Bleach Forums and the Ban Hammer - Page 12 EmptyThu May 26, 2011 3:06 am

I'm confident Sun Tzu didn't wipe out a large portion of his army. Seeing as that's stupid and if there's one thing Sun Tzu isn't it's stupid.
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PostSubject: Re: Bleach Forums and the Ban Hammer   Bleach Forums and the Ban Hammer - Page 12 EmptyThu May 26, 2011 3:27 am

That's a phrase I find myself uttering often. A lot of people who talk about "strategy" seem to think ideas I lifted directly from quotes from Art of War are "stupid."

For instance, "War is a means to an end, & that end is almost always political."
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PostSubject: Re: Bleach Forums and the Ban Hammer   Bleach Forums and the Ban Hammer - Page 12 EmptyThu May 26, 2011 3:52 am

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because Aizen never said shit about destroying the world.

Bull. He said to Ichigo "when it is all over, you will be eaten with everything else".
I think that means that the world as they knew it was going to be completely changed and he was going to do it by destroying the world as they knew it.
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PostSubject: Re: Bleach Forums and the Ban Hammer   Bleach Forums and the Ban Hammer - Page 12 EmptyThu May 26, 2011 4:13 am

Maybe according to 1 translation he said that, but there is a very good reason not to make wild conclusions from specific wordings in manga.
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What's he say in whatever you read, or whatever?
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PostSubject: Re: Bleach Forums and the Ban Hammer   Bleach Forums and the Ban Hammer - Page 12 EmptyThu May 26, 2011 4:20 am

"I will eat you after all of this is over."
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PostSubject: Re: Bleach Forums and the Ban Hammer   Bleach Forums and the Ban Hammer - Page 12 EmptyThu May 26, 2011 4:51 am

That sounds incredibly suggestive in a homosexual way. Maybe?

Anyway, if he took away the Soul King the Soul Society would be ripped apart (as Urahara says) which is destroying a world.
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PostSubject: Re: Bleach Forums and the Ban Hammer   Bleach Forums and the Ban Hammer - Page 12 EmptyThu May 26, 2011 10:22 am

You know what else sounds incredibly suggestive in a homosexual way? Almost everything, it just depends on how you look at this shit.

"That was so much fun"

Yup Gay sex.

"I just messed something up."

You just messed your pants up, because you looked at gay porn?

"I just took my sweatshirt out of my closet."

What you just came out of the closet?

"These pants are pretty tight."

Yup, because you're fat. And gay.

"I think I need to eat something"

Like a dick, because you're gay.


See what I mean? Pretty much anything is gay if you think of it like that. What does it mean when you take everything everyone says and call it gay? You're straight up gay. What made me come up with the hypothesis? I don't fucking have a clue.

Jesus, fucking, Christ. My lord and savior. Yes his middle name is "Fucking", because that's just how he rolls. And you know, calling everything gay somehow makes you less gay /sarcasm.

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PostSubject: Re: Bleach Forums and the Ban Hammer   Bleach Forums and the Ban Hammer - Page 12 EmptyThu May 26, 2011 1:32 pm

The actual translation is what Neo said. He basically said after he was done fucking shit up he'd eat Ichigo, cause he was saving the best for last or some shit.

Fuck I don't know Aizen is queer as two male unicorns assfucking on a double rainbow.
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PostSubject: Re: Bleach Forums and the Ban Hammer   Bleach Forums and the Ban Hammer - Page 12 EmptyThu May 26, 2011 4:10 pm

Cannibalism is such a fag thing.
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Him being cannibalistic has nothing to do with that lol
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PostSubject: Re: Bleach Forums and the Ban Hammer   Bleach Forums and the Ban Hammer - Page 12 EmptyThu May 26, 2011 5:21 pm

Homosexuality in my shonen manga? It's more likely than you think.
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PostSubject: Re: Bleach Forums and the Ban Hammer   Bleach Forums and the Ban Hammer - Page 12 EmptyThu May 26, 2011 5:26 pm

Recent highlights from my argument:

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Yet your strategy would put the entire world at a huge risk of being destroyed. My strategy would save the world while still having plenty of really powerful people to protect it after wards. Your whole post war status argument would make sense if we weren't talking about the end of the world here. I don't see how you fail to understand the very basic and obvious idea that to get to tomorrow you have to get through today first.

Yes, until it fails. I mean, if the entire basis is that Aizen "MIGHT" have an ace in the hole, who's to say said ace isn't just "teleport out of the blast zone & leave everyone else to fry." Also, remember that he clearly says, "Destroyed."

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You didn't give any facts. That's not something I simply think. Given that facts support my argument against your argument which consists solely of groundless interpretations and opinions I would say you're the one who's factually wrong.

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Yes because wars in real life (which, by the way, are often fought under somewhat fair terms) from many, many, many, many, many years ago can totally be compared to modern Anime wars where a single person can destroy the entire world with his supernatural powers.

Yes, the greatest military strategist ever was just thrown out of this discussion because "they have superpowers." In which case, why is this dumbass even arguing what "good strategy" is?

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Do I really have to explain to you that taking over the world and making people live by your horrible ways is akin to the world ending? Actually many people would prefer to just kick the bucket rather than do that.

"I've never back pedaled, but by destroying the world, I didn't mean it would actually be destroyed. This is clearly logical, as evident from the condescending way I say it."

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Did you not open up the link? Also, watch the insults, if you want to knock my argument that's fine by me, I know you're wrong anyways and that's just how arguments are sometimes, but straight up insults that can be considered offensive by other people are unacceptable.

Cry about it.

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It doesn't have to be because of that one fact you mention, Aizen already admitted Yamamoto is far stronger than himself and as such would beat him in a one on one fight, thus the conclusion that Yamamoto was wary of Aizen cheating is obvious.

"Person A said something about feeling wary, so that proves that Person B can't feel similarly."

Am I out-of-line for saying he doesn't understand how logic works?

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mimicktheotherguy. Translation: You have no counter argument to what you quoted there.

Oh yeah, that's TOTALLY what it meant.
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What makes the point stupid? Because it's inconvenient for your argument? There's nothing stupid about pointing out that your false opinion is in the extreme minority if not solitary for a reason.

You heard him right: There's nothing wrong with using Argument Ad Populum!

And last, but most importantly, my response:

I don't really give a damn how offended you are. You're an idiot. You don't understand the words being used, or logic, period. You keep cutting in with that stupid "you're just deciding it because it's bad for your point" bullshit. No, dumbass, Argument Ad Populum is a documented fallacy whether you like it or not. I'd say I didn't think you were stupid enough to deny it, but it was right in line with your profile up to this point. If you're going to keep saying shit like that, then there's really nothing to be gained from this conversation, except to mock how utterly fantastic your failure is.
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PostSubject: Re: Bleach Forums and the Ban Hammer   Bleach Forums and the Ban Hammer - Page 12 EmptyThu May 26, 2011 5:36 pm

This reminds me why its pointless to argue anything with you.

That said, you're right and I support you this time.

@Harley, Shinobu Sensui was gay.
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PostSubject: Re: Bleach Forums and the Ban Hammer   Bleach Forums and the Ban Hammer - Page 12 EmptyThu May 26, 2011 6:23 pm

Sensui was ambiguous. Gatekeeper was out-&-out gay.

That show also gave us Yusuke's belief that if you want to be the opposite gender, you shouldn't half-ass it with transvestism.
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PostSubject: Re: Bleach Forums and the Ban Hammer   Bleach Forums and the Ban Hammer - Page 12 EmptyThu May 26, 2011 9:40 pm

Fair point, And yes, yes it did.
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PostSubject: Re: Bleach Forums and the Ban Hammer   Bleach Forums and the Ban Hammer - Page 12 EmptyThu May 26, 2011 10:04 pm

So, I've come to the realization that the ACTUAL trolls are the only ones who are safe from the banhammer.
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Silly Neon, everyone knows a troll is someone who disagrees with you.
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That's pretty much how it goes. Nothing happens unless you actually piss someone off.
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PostSubject: Re: Bleach Forums and the Ban Hammer   Bleach Forums and the Ban Hammer - Page 12 EmptyThu May 26, 2011 11:45 pm

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You know what else sounds incredibly suggestive in a homosexual way? Almost everything, it just depends on how you look at this shit.

"That was so much fun"

Yup Gay sex.

"I just messed something up."

You just messed your pants up, because you looked at gay porn?

"I just took my sweatshirt out of my closet."

What you just came out of the closet?

"These pants are pretty tight."

Yup, because you're fat. And gay.

"I think I need to eat something"

Like a dick, because you're gay.


See what I mean? Pretty much anything is gay if you think of it like that. What does it mean when you take everything everyone says and call it gay? You're straight up gay. What made me come up with the hypothesis? I don't fucking have a clue.

Jesus, fucking, Christ. My lord and savior. Yes his middle name is "Fucking", because that's just how he rolls. And you know, calling everything gay somehow makes you less gay /sarcasm.


Sure, all of those can be suggestive, but not one of them was witty or funny. I mean, you that's just an everyday statement.

When you say "I'm going to eat you when it's all over..." or something like that, it's still not witty but it's better than "put that in there" - "THAT'S WHAT SHE SAIIID!"

Also, I'm not saying "that's gay", I'm just saying it's suggestive. I'm not a retard who runs about calling everybody homo and fag... having a dirty mind is not the same as over compensating.
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