Bleach Forums and the Ban Hammer

ITT: People who can't tell when someone insults himself to make light of a situation.

Also ITT: Harley's butt, which is hurt.

So, apparently BF mods are now spying on this forum, which I guess is kind of a given considering how we left, and how easy we made it to find us.

By we, and us I mean you other people.

It's almost like I want them to be paranoid of me, or something.

But that would mean that, by making me out as the leader of some kind of Legion of Doom, they're stupid, & actually doing exactly what I want them to.

And I can say all of this in the open because the damage is done, & now it won't make a difference what they do.

But that would make them dangerously incompetent, & that just can't be possible.

Why do they constantly refer to us as some kind of pair. I feel slightly insulted. My actions had little to do with your influence and more to do with theirs, but I guess they'll never realize that.

Also, the accusation that I "jumped" MU is entirely baseless. I, to use their word, was "civil" and explained to him in simple terms why it was that I said the things I did, and why I felt that way. I then pointed out reasons why my argument was stronger, and even showed him that a higher ranking mod sided with me. How is that an attack? How is logically telling someone they are wrong an attack? Coming from the people who tried so hard to be gracious in their promotion speeches, saying things like, "Don't think because I am a Mod that I'm better than you, if you think I'm wrong, tell me." Well, we did, and we were told to quiet down, or leave, guess what I did.

Mr. Shinigami is equally baseless in his accusations as the only time I even addressed him I continually, at the start of every sentence, said "Correct me if I am wrong". It is not my fault that everything I said was in fact true, and the Mr. Shinigami could not handle the fact that he was wrong. Proof of his inability to cope with me, even AFTER my departure comes from the fact that he closed the thread down to silence what was said, using the promotion he would not have received if it wasn't for me.

As promised, I'm planting a copy of my response to these allegations here, to be moved to a more visible area, if necessary:

I see you’re already familiar with my site. I’ll be putting a copy of this there, so you can’t completely silence it.

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Seeing as I have received a few private messages regarding the events of the last couple days I have decided to go ahead and write a synopsis of what has happen.

By summary, you mean NOT a series of increasingly ridiculous outright lies, I am sure.

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Over the past months a small number of users have grown more and more difficult to deal with. It started with isolated events of being argumentative with other members, which by all means is fine; I encourage thoughtful and respectable debates among peers. However this small number of users soon evolved into a clique and as a group devolved into disrespectful treatment of and brazen attacks against other users. The members of this clique were warned multiple times and punitive actions were taken in consequence of their actions on more than one occasion.

Here is the aforementioned “outright lying.” The reason we were “attacking” other users is because they were being cockheads & you, being equally cockheaded, were either not doing anything about them or not doing enough. For instance, BM & SoulKing. You remember them? They’re the same ones who pretty much danced on our graves after we got banned, actions that almost surely would have resulted in a ban if it were a member of “my clique,” as you call it. In fact, the one time Soul King returned to bash me & I called him butthurt over it, I was banned for it. Now, here he is, doing the same thing, & I don’t believe he OR BM got anything for it.

Not that isn't what you designed this entire thread for.

So, yeah, your ineffectiveness & unfair treatment? That’s not a fairy tale.

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More recently, in the last few days to be more specific, this group of users moved to outright disregard of the rules and policies of this forum, going so far as purposely “troll” the forums and trying to recruit others to join in said “trolling”

Isn’t lifting quotes off of my forum without giving them their proper context a blatant act of slander?

I’d say I expected better of you, but I don’t like to lie.

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Added to this as well is ignoring the instructions of and disrespecting members of the Bleach Forum Staff.

I had reason to believe Mr. Shinigami was specifically targeting my posts after I made fun of him for his “super important IRL shit,” so I gave him more of the same. You wankers responded in classic form by permabanning me for it, even though you did no fucking thing about any of the times I was openly attacked by, say, Touhou. Ururu_Blue even claimed I had reached “troll status” one time I talked to her.

Like my poem said: You assholes just pissed me off enough that I decided to show you what real trolling was, & I guess you didn’t like it.

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In somewhat a response to the rising problems and challenges that these users posed, two of the Bleach Section Mods were promoted to Senior Mods by the Bleach Forum Admins. These two Moderators were PMF and myself.

And do I get any fucking thanks for it? I’d only been voicing concerns about how it would be so easy to troll this site due to crap policies & ineffective moderation for MONTHS before I actually did it. Maybe if you’d have fucking listened to me while I was still being the relatively nice guy, but no, your plan is to scapegoat me.

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After the original two bans took place, Neo Bahamut took it upon himself to instruct the remaining members of the clique to continue and even ramp up their rebellious actions. The juvenile and wanton actions taken after the original two bans are what attributed and ultimately led to Insaynity and Script-Z being banned permanently. It is also these actions that will result in the bans not being overturned.

Is that all? Why don’t you go into the fact that Script was specifically told his concerns about unfair treatment wouldn’t be addressed before he even made any? So, basically, he could only stay if he’d just shut up & put up with your crap. Again, this is somehow my fault, & never yours.

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Yes, he accomplished that as well as getting himself and others banned. In that effort he did succeed.

Do you think I’m insulted in the least? Oh, the jackasses think I’m a jackass, that REALLY stings.

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I hope those I am talking to know who they are. We have never had, or have had limited, issues with you all in the past. In fact I am fond of some of you.

I have my own suggestion to make: Why bother kowtowing to this band of liars & e-terrorists? You don’t need them. You can easily find another forum for Bleach, or just make your own. It doesn't even have to have any of us on it. Then you wouldn’t have to deal with the “When we feel like it” moderation method, censorship when responding to bad posts, & I’m pretty sure the admin is embezzling.

Seriously, there is no way it takes $200 a month to run a Bleach forum. Hell, I don’t even know why you WOULD donate, it’s so easy to make a free forum.

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I don’t believe that you should leave just because of the events of the past few days.

And this is the line that undercuts so much of your failure. This is not something that manifested in the last few days. You were warned. It was building up for months, but you ignored it. You continue to ignore the real problems, instead you want to make me the boogeyman, & that’s why people are getting fed up with you.

So, you kill Tsar Nicolas. You kill all of his supporters. You slander his memory in the Soviet newspapers. You warn that any who follow tsarism in this new age will similarly be killed. What issues does that actually solve? None.

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But if you do feel like you have to leave, I would suggest just quietly doing so without the theatrics of the last few days.

Yes, you’d like that, wouldn’t you? Then you wouldn’t have to acknowledge that you have a problem. You wouldn’t have to deal with the thoughts & feelings of all of these users. And it’s so much easier to just dismiss them as “juvenile,” instead of actually doing something.

Hey, it's worked so far, hasn't it?

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As I’ve said, we have nothing against those users who have not done anything to call on the ire of the Bleach Forums Staff.

Coincidentally, I had nothing against any of you, until you each gained my wrath in succession.

Even MayuriUrahara, back for like 4 days, insists on talking about crap he clearly knows nothing about. Script didn't "jump on" you, & in any case I didn't join in, I was banned before I could even respond to you.

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It means that we are a few users lighter now. Will that kill us? No. Bleach Forums was around for a long time before these users joined and will be around for a long time after they have been banned. It will be, business as usual.

Maybe. Only time will tell.

But let’s look at the facts, here. You banned us, set the board to admin notification, still had enough people asking about this to make this little statement, spread malicious lies & half-truths about me, dug up information on my own board & used it against me, & now you specifically feel the need to keep face & insist that you don’t feel threatened, ALL while operating under the assumption that none of us can deny your bullshit accusations or otherwise defend ourselves, due to the original bans. That’s a lot of effort to go through, if it’s all just no big deal.

You know what? I think your actions betray that you feel threatened. And you know what else? You should. Because I’m threatening you. And Script, Entranced, & whoever else aren’t any more forgiving.

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Just as the site goes through its yearly cycles of ups and downs it goes through cycles of user types. This past group was not the first cycle of their type and they most certainly won’t be the last, but I believe that we, the Bleach Forum Staff, are up to the challenge.

No you’re not. You’ll go back to your weeks of not logging in, & maybe our efforts will have slowed, but so will the board. Entranced alone has repeatedly proven far beyond your ability to handle, yet you have the sheer audacity to sit there & claim that you can deal with a small army of trolls hell-bent on fucking up your shit in any way possible? Such lies, Truthy.

Fuck, you actually return after pulling a Taegan and it's just for this garbage. I hate you more than anyone.

It seems the majority of the BF community is either rejoicing that you have been banned or they just don't care.
I think the mods figure that if the bulk of the members are quiet and don't grumble they're fine, and they can just kick out of dissenters and hush it up.

Seems to me this works, at least until someone like Neo or Script decides to attack the site.

The mods seem to have disregarded the fact that Touhou basically said "I'm not going to be nice about my leave like Radical was, this forum is shitty. No rules. Worthless Admins."

How so?

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Seems to me this works, at least until someone like Neo or Script decides to attack the site.

Hell yeah I'm gonna attack the site, I am officially as mad as Script. What do you mean "how so"? I called Mr. Shinigami "butthurt" & got permabanned within 2 days of it. Touhou openly talked about how I was immature & not to act like me in a thread I WASN'T EVEN IN. She got absolutely nothing for this, & ended up drama whoring again weeks later.

The only way you could argue that this is fair is because the Touhou thing didn't become a huge thing, & it didn't do that because I didn't attack her for it, as would have been so richly deserved. So, by that ASININE logic, it's all Mr. Shinigami's fault, anyway.

Then there's also these quotes, which I could piss over:

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"We are glad to be past this chapter, which is now closed. Thank you everyone for your patience, we will now continue business as usual.”

What part of "I'm not finished with you"? Do you not understand? Why do you insist on clinging to this ridiculous lie that you've fixed everything? Any idiot can see that you haven't.

I don't even know why you're bothering to ask for questions, you seem to be in a hurry to evade them. Why DIDN'T Touhou, BM, or SoulKing get banned, even temporarily? Why DIDN'T you listen to me in the first place? Why IS it appropriate to make a mod-approved thread to dance on our proverbial graves? Why IS the admin embezzling?

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I have to side with the moderators in this case.

Of course YOU do, YOU got away with EVERYTHING & get to insult me out in the open without fear of reprisal. No part of this reflects negatively on BM, so that must mean it's a good thing, doesn't it?

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I remember when I was banned a couple of times (I didn't particularly agreed with it, but it's a waste of time trying to petition it) but I didn't go off to create a bunch of names to troll on the forum... Guess what I did? I spent my time and energy participating on other forums. The world isn't going to fudging end, I promise you.

Hey, asshat, I got banned more times than you did. I didn't petition them either, I haven't made a sockpuppet account (yet), oh & your only reason for not doing that is apparently that it's a "waste of time." So stop acting all morally superior.

In fact, you get banned permanently, then we'll see what you do.

Is it just me...Or do they think this shit is over?

Hey, I'm not fucking done with you douche bags. You think it's over? Come at me bro.

http://www.bleachforums.com/showthread.php/49429-In-Regards-to-the-Events-of-the-Past-Few-Days?p=1532133&viewfull=1#post1532133

You heard it here first. It's a contradiction to complain about getting banned on one board for something, & then do that something on another board. Also, this forum exists just to get back on BF, & was probably made yesterday.

By which, I of course mean that BM is making crap up without any clue what he's talking about. In other news, water is wet, fire is hot, & Harley won't stop telling me about his stool.

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I wish Neo, Script and Entranced future happiness in their internet activities.

You don't mean that. Trust me, you don't.

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These things seem to happen in cycles. A group bands together and forms a clique. They start off innocently enough, then they begin to feel their "strength" in numbers. They begin to rally against either "heavy handed" moderators/policies or a lack of moderation action. There is never any middle ground, it's either you're doing too much or you're doing nothing at all. But anyway, eventually things come to a head and someone gets banned, something gets shut down, or some privilege gets taken away and the group ragequits. lather, rinse, repeat. there's always backlash, there's always a lull, and there's always a recovery.

Naturally, I started every single one of these groups.

Edit: I just noticed, the thread got closed when we managed to respond. What an incredibly unfortunate coincidence.

Isn't there a more tactical way to go about this other than a direct blitzkrieg assault of troll and flame? Considering that, outside of the increase in mods on that site you don't seem to be making much headway yet.

Mayhaps its time to re-evaluate the methods you are using and attack in another way?

tl;dr this thread = the internet is srsbzns

Better idea: Get out of your parents basements and do something productive with your lives.

Why, yes, I'm going to discuss my secret trolling plans in the topic I know my victims are watching.

We have PMs and IMs. Besides I was just checking to make sure :U

Isn't that the point? like a "Fear Factor" thing. You want them to know how fucked they're going to be before you fuck them. And then once they're fucked, they will know that we weren't lying.

Till' you find your IP address blocked.

Entranced has been IP Banned consecutively like 40 times now.

Basically, I'm letting them know they're about to get raped, but I'm not telling them which orifice, & I'm not saying I won't just make a new one.

That just means he's smart enough to know how to change IP addresses.

Pretty sure you're not.

To be honest, the forum is really dead now. I was looking at it and I checked back 2 or so hours later and nothing has really happened. I think we succeeded in killing it fairly well.

Isn't that basically what it was like when it was alive?

No it was more active than this. Basically right now it's about 1 post per hour on average. Before it was like 15 per hour average. But, it also depends on what time period of ALIVE you're talking about. A year ago, it was a lot better.

Well, us being banned probably cut that average at least in half.

If we aren't including the HD people, it's down to like 5% activity.